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 Refugees remain as Manus deadline arrives
Flin
 Posted: Oct 31 2017, 08:01 AM
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Refugees remain as Manus deadline arrives
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Manus Island detainees are launching legal action over the closure Australia's immigration detention centre, just hours before utilities are cut off.

Hundreds of refugees and asylum seekers are refusing to leave the camp at the Lombrum Navy Base in Papua New Guinea as food, water and power are cut on Tuesday.

Detainees fear they won't be safe at three other facilities they are meant to relocate to in and around the island's main town of Lorengau.

The group believes their constitutionally protected human rights are being breached by the removal of basic services, including water and electricity.

Overnight, detainees secured damaged perimeter fencing around the compound as they prepared to barricade themselves inside.

As they did, PNG immigration officials plastered notices up around the centre urging detainees to leave before utilities were cut off and the site was returned to PNG defence forces.

"Move to alternative accommodation now," the notice read.

"Anyone choosing to remain here will be liable for removal from an active PNG military base."

PNG's government on Monday warned Australia it will take no responsibility for "non-refugees" and people who refuse to settle in PNG, saying they are the obligation of the Australian government.

PNG lawyer Ben Lomai is expected to lodge a legal application on Tuesday morning.

An Australian lawyer helping with the case, Greg Barns, says the application "seeks to ensure that those asylum seekers who remain on the island don't have those constitutional rights breached".

Extra PNG police have been deployed to the island after many locals threatened to use violence to stop the asylum seekers relocating.

Two-of-the-three centres earmarked for the detainees are still not fenced or guarded.

PNG is also demanding Australia clarify its plans for people found not to be refugees and refugees who are refusing to settle on Manus Island.

PNG Immigration Minister Petrus Thomas says Australia alone is responsible for finding third-country resettlement options for refugees and returning non-refugees to their home countries.

Acting Prime Minister Julie Bishop insists Australia is working to find solutions.
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What a mess. It seems to me that our government does every thing as a knee jerk reaction, wit no regard to outcome or consequence. Pretty stupid.

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 Posted: Oct 31 2017, 08:57 AM
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They will do what they all do best, try and sweep it under the carpet hoping that the media won't say anything. But since Rudd had them all sent there under Labor Government they should also get up off there high horse and help fix the problem.
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do not feed them user posted image why are they our problem ? Who cares what the world thinks

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It wasn't Australia who brought about the closure of this detention centre, it was the PNG courts.

These "Asylum Seekers" refuse to go anywhere else. They knew that they would never be allowed into Australia, yet they still refuse to go anywhere but Australia.

What is the Australian government supposed to do?

Just give in and allow them into Aus? http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Which of course would open the floodgates once again.

I suppose that would make the bleeding hearts such as Hanson Young happy. That's a consolation I guess. http://s7.postimg.org/j7qtvsrc7/sarcasm.gif

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I suppose that would make the bleeding hearts such as Hanson Young happy. That's a consolation I guess.

They would soon find something else to whinge about Scepo. They will never be happy until everything is done the way they want ... and too bad about the rights of anyone who disagrees with them.

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QUOTE (scepo @ Oct 31 2017, 01:13 PM)
It wasn't Australia who brought about the closure of this detention centre, it was the PNG courts.

These "Asylum Seekers" refuse to go anywhere else. They knew that they would never be allowed into Australia, yet they still refuse to go anywhere but Australia.

What is the Australian government supposed to do?

Just give in and allow them into Aus?  http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif [i] [i]If the UNHRC has is way

[/i]Which of course would open the floodgates once again. Absolutely nothing surer.

I suppose that would make the bleeding hearts such as Hanson Young happy. That's a consolation I guess.  http://s7.postimg.org/j7qtvsrc7/sarcasm.gif [/i]
why is that sarcasim, it would be bloody true.
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Hey Mick, the sarcasm refers to it being a consolation if Hanson Young was happy. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/wink.gif

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Why would they refuse? They came here on a voluntary basis, knowing the situation out here (they would've known everything because of phone calls from the "refugees" already out here.
I don't get how they can say "We're not leaving!" So, we still can't do enough for them. It's never enough! http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif 👎

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It is a mess Flin - like most, I am sick of the way consecutive governments are slowly bringing Australia to its knees through pathetic polices.

These men (note photo: most are 'young' men) make me sick, all the complaining and high expectations, send the lot of em back to their homelands and be done with this BS.
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The problem is this.

Who has responsibility for these refugees ?

Is their welfare the responsibility of Australia or PNG ?

If it's Australia's responsibility, we should be ensuring that, while in our care, their basic human rights are preserved. That includes the right to be kept safe.

Will it take the murder of more refugees for Australia to shoulder it's humanitarian responsibilities towards these people ?

We'll find out at the inevitable Royal Commission no doubt.
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