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Posted by: Bear Jun 9 2018, 08:18 PM
Austria to shut seven 'political' mosques and expel imams.

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Austria has said it will close down seven mosques and expel imams who it says are funded by foreign countries.

Chancellor Sebastian Kurz said the move was a crackdown on political Islam.

Some mosques are suspected of having links to Turkish nationalists. In April images emerged showing children in Turkish army uniforms re-enacting the World War One Battle of Gallipoli.

The Turkish president's office called Austria's move "Islamophobic, racist and discriminatory".

The Austrian government says 60 of the 260 imams in the country are being investigated, of whom 40 belong to ATIB, an Islamic organisation in Austria close to the Turkish government.

"Parallel societies, political Islam and radicalisation tendencies have no place in our country," said Chancellor Kurz on Friday.

What prompted the crackdown?

The Gallipoli re-enactment performance took place in a Vienna mosque reported to be run by ATIB.

The WW1 battle, one of the last victories of the Ottoman Empire, stopped Allied forces reaching its capital, Constantinople.

Austrian media report (in German) that the child actors played dead and were covered with Turkish flags.

Separately, Austrian public broadcaster ORF says photos of children doing the Turkish nationalist Grey Wolves greeting came from a mosque in Vienna's Favoriten district run by the Grey Wolves, a group with branches in several countries.

The government is dissolving an organisation called the Arab Religious Community. Six of the mosques targeted for closure are run by it: three in Vienna, two in Upper Austria and one in Carinthia.

In neighbouring Germany, police have been probing links between certain imams and the Turkish state, which funds a Muslim organisation called Ditib.

The Austrian authorities have been working with a Muslim community body called IGGÖ to identify mosques and imams suspected of radical Islamist or nationalist connections.

How bad are Austria-Turkey relations?

They have soured significantly in recent years.

Mr Kurz's election campaign last year drew heavily on anxiety about immigration and the integration of Muslims. His conservative People's Party (ÖVP) formed a coalition government with the far-right Freedom Party (FPÖ).

Mr Kurz wants the EU to break off Turkey's EU membership negotiations - a stance that has angered Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

In May 2017 that anger led Turkey to veto Nato's co-operation with Austria. The move disrupted Nato's partnership activities with 41 countries. Turkey is a key player in Nato operations.

President Erdogan's ruling AK Party has roots in political Islam and espouses traditional Muslim values.

He is campaigning for re-election, and both Austria and Germany are wary of his political influence in their Turkish communities.

The governments in Austria and other Central European countries - Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Poland - want to restrict Muslim immigration to Europe.

There is friction between them and Germany, which took in about one million mainly Muslim asylum seekers in 2015.

Turkey is housing more than three million Syrian refugees and says the EU is not doing enough to help.

The Austrian government has no choice, the spread of radical Islam needs to be removed before it poisons the whole world.

Posted by: Alicia Jun 10 2018, 06:21 AM
Those with jihadist motives will probably now be driven “underground.

Posted by: Phillip J. Jun 10 2018, 08:27 AM
Unfortunately, the radical Islamist groups appear to have infiltrated most countries, even if it is (at this stage) just small pockets of them! But new arrivals, along with the "recruitment drives" that are happening everywhere, means that the "tolerant, assimilating people" of Islam will just keep on gaining footholds in their targeted countries. It's not unlike a cancer that sends its tendrils throughout areas, reinforcing the original first landing zone, so to speak. By the time that a person notices the problem, they'll have spread so far, that you will never get them all, meanwhile they are developing at an alarming rate, to the point that they will be the dominant ruling group, and why? Because we ignored them until it's now too late! The spread is irreversible and they will win! Just do the maths! They divide us as they themselves multiply!

Posted by: Flin Jun 10 2018, 08:41 AM
All mosques are political as is all of islam.

Posted by: scepo Jun 10 2018, 12:16 PM
Yes Islam is political, always has been. That is why Mohammad "created" it.

And Islam is radical, once again it always has been, just as Mohammad created it.

As a terrorist political organisation it should be banned in every democratic nation.

Posted by: Michael.W Jun 11 2018, 09:38 PM
They should shut all of them here too.

Posted by: Bill Jun 13 2018, 04:57 PM
QUOTE (Michael.W @ Jun 11 2018, 09:38 PM)
They should shut all of them here too.

I would include all of them in that Michael and I include those that harbour paedophile priests and volunteers who abuse children.

Not just their places of worship either - but also their schools, orphanages, disability service providers, aged care facilities etc.

Anywhere that the 'god botherers' have access to government funds, is open to abuse.

No point in just singling out the mosques mate. They are all political organisations, hell bent on making laws for all of us based on their own particular 3,000 year old religious texts.

Maybe it's time to outlaw all religions - maybe even a Royal Commission into their activities.

Just joking Michael - We know that's not going to happen eh.

Posted by: charka Jun 13 2018, 05:28 PM
Do not see to many mainstream religions stabbing murdering endemic raping etc around our way Or just diffrent in QLD Bill Seems to be a perk for thge boys more so with the M people They All have done it to some degree Google Evil bible horrendous stuff

Posted by: Charles Jun 13 2018, 06:51 PM
Before we make sweeping generalisations about all religions Bill, let's look at the reason behind the actions of the Austrian government.

"Parallel societies, political Islam and radicalisation tendencies have no place in our country," said Chancellor Kurz on Friday.

Your post about paedophile priests, as abhorrent as their actions are, contributes nothing to any discussion about the main story.

"Parallel societies" is about a group failing to assimilate and integrate. While the majority of Muslims in Australia successfully become part of our society/community, there are areas in Australia (Lakemba by all accounts) where the problems experienced in parts of Europe are mirrored.

"Political Islam" is evident in many Muslim countries suchj as Saudi Arabia. Indonesia is trying, but struggling, to contain the political pressures of Islam. Turkey, under President Erdogan, is actively embracing Islam as the basis of its political base.

"Radicalisation" needs no further discussion as it is this aspect of Islamic extremism that has resulted in terrorism attacks and the mistrust of Muslims in general by many members of Western countries.

It is nothing to do with "Islamophobia". "Racism" or "Muslim bashing." It is about a section of Islam that has openly expressed the desire to rule the world.

Posted by: Bear Jun 13 2018, 07:40 PM
"Not just their places of worship either - but also their schools, orphanages, disability service providers, aged care facilities etc."

Finally something I agree with Bill, but then its a joke?

"Just joking Michael - We know that's not going to happen eh."

Your sarcasm is not funny at all Bill.


How is 'socialism' working for the victims? Do any progressives give a toss? Gary Dowsett must 'love' progressives they have been his closest allies. The world is becoming 'progressively' sicker!

He cited an article by Dr Dowsett, published when he was a school teacher in 1982, in which he recounted having “a friend, a pedophile, who is working very hard on making sense out of his relationships with boys”.

“These relations consist of, among other things, a large amount of nurture and support for these boys, a real caring for their welfare and growth,” he wrote in journal Gay Information.

“We have three legal/social questions to win: custody rights for gay men and lesbians; the legal right of pedophiles and their young lovers; and, finally, the sexual rights of children as a whole. Those gains must be won for the kids, too. We need to protect the youthful partners in pedophilia against the legal and social management systems which treat them as delinquents.”

Dr Dowsett wrote that many mothers and fathers found their children “sexual” and activities such as cuddling, bathing and breastfeeding “generate sexual responses in their parents”.

“How different, then, is that gentle, tentative sexuality between parent and child from the love of a pedophile and his/her lover?” he wrote. “From all accounts, and from many academic studies — some worse than others — that kind of love, warmth, support and nurture is an important part of the pedophilic relationship.”

Posted by: Phillip J. Jun 13 2018, 10:57 PM
After reading articles by, and about, Gary Dowsett, I've come go the conclusion that there is something sick, something wrong with Mr. Dowsett. I'm not talking about the fact that he's gay. That in itself is not the point, it's more about the way actually wants his buddies to "have relationships" with children! I think that they are the ravings of a sick, perverted person, possibly a groomer of innocent, gullible children. The funny thing is, he is the "male"? equivalent of Roz Ward, she of the "learning to pee standing up!" What a goal to have!
Two wonderful examples of fine humanity!

Posted by: charka Jun 14 2018, 04:06 AM
poor roz

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