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 Posted: Jul 10 2018, 12:14 PM
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Also lithium batteries cases r being built better to retard ignition and solid state batteries r being researched for cars.


About lithium fires can't be put out by water. Fire can regenerate hours later.

"The temperature can quickly reach 500C (932F), at which point the cell catches fire or it explodes. This thermal runaway that occurs is known as “venting with flame.” “Rapid disassembly” is the preferred term by the battery industry."

http://batteryuniversity.com/index.php/learn/article/safety_concerns_with_li_ion

Also while lithium isn't itself toxic, cobalt used in terminals is,

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 Posted: Jul 10 2018, 12:27 PM
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Also lithium batteries cases r being built better to retard ignition and solid state batteries r being researched for cars.


About lithium fires can't be put out by water. Fire can regenerate hours later.

"The temperature can quickly reach 500C (932F), at which point the cell catches fire or it explodes. This thermal runaway that occurs is known as “venting with flame.” “Rapid disassembly” is the preferred term by the battery industry."

http://batteryuniversity.com/index.php/learn/article/safety_concerns_with_li_ion

Also while lithium isn't itself toxic, cobalt used in terminals is,

Its a good thing the Tesla gave almost gotten rid of the cobalt in their batteries :)
Don't we have cobalt in our bodies.
They use cobalt in hip joints and knees don't they ?
If a lithium battery broke open and u touched the terminal would that poison u from being made from cobalt ?
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 Posted: Jul 10 2018, 02:35 PM
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Its a good thing the Tesla gave almost gotten rid of the cobalt in their batteries


So Not all then?

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Don't we have cobalt in our bodies.


"Human body contains cobalt in the amount of less than one mg, of which 0.36 mg contained in the adipose, 0.3 mg - in the hair, 0.28 mg - in the bones, and 0.2 mg - in the muscles, 0.11 mg - in the liver."


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They use cobalt in hip joints and knees don't they ?


"Cobalt toxicity — an emerging clinical problem in patients with metal-on-metal hip prostheses?"

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2011/194/12/cobalt-toxicity-emerging-clinical-problem-patients-metal-metal-hip-prostheses

MJA - Medical Journal f Australia.

BTW - from earlier -

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same can be said for asbestos, DDT, lead paint, if they where still around we wouldn't all be dead.


DDT is problematic. It seems the dangers of DDT were grossly overstated.

"DDT: A Case Study in Scientific Fraud"

http://www.jpands.org/vol9no3/edwards.pdf

"In September 2006, the World Health Organization (WHO) declared its support for the indoor use of DDT in African countries where malaria remains a major health problem, citing that benefits of the pesticide outweigh the health and environmental risks. The WHO position is consistent with the Stockholm Convention on POPs, which bans DDT for all uses except for malaria control."

https://www.epa.gov/ingredients-used-pesticide-products/ddt-brief-history-and-status

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We were warned about hydrofluic acid spelling ^&**^]alloy wheels etc for road crash all out there to git you sometimes water is not the best option
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