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 Posted: Oct 8 2017, 09:22 AM
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Child-on-child sexual abuse is soaring and these are the disturbing reasons why


THE number of children sexually abusing other children is rising, and there are some clear reasons why.

IT’S one of the most distressing crimes that exists, because of the suffering it inflicts on two innocents — both victim and perpetrator.

Child-on-child sexual abuse is becoming increasingly common around Australia, and it’s thanks to the society we have all created, say the experts.

When we think about child rape, we typically think of twisted paedophiles who it is easy to despise. But hundreds of minors every year are being sexually assaulted by their peers.

Australian Childhood Foundation CEO Dr Joe Tucci, who runs one of just a few programs focused on sexualised behaviour in children, says the number of cases is only growing.

“The problem has been increasing over the past decade,” he told news.com.au. “When we started running the program, we got about 10 referrals a year. Nowadays we’d get closer to 250.”

Carolyn Worth, spokeswoman for Victoria’s groundbreaking Centres Against Sexual Assault (CASA), says around 50 per cent of child victims have been abused by other children.

“It’s usually an easily accessible child, cousins rather than strangers,” she told news.com.au. “Children are nearly always abused by someone trusted or close to them.

“Paedophiles who go overseas and buy children are in some ways the minority, but they’re the ones we see in the papers. Often, it’s opportunistic — parents who don’t have boundaries and are narcissistic — people abuse their own kids much more regularly. That’s also a shocking thing: 75 to 80 per cent of abusers are known to the children.”

There are many causes for the abuse. Many of the children involved are growing up in “chaotic” families with no clear rules or unsupervised, unlimited access to the internet. The experts agree pornography is a major risk factor.

“The advent of broadband has really changed the field,” said Ms Worth. “Before, if kids wanted to look at something, they had to find their dad’s Penthouse or Playboy. It isn’t so since around 2006.

“There’s actually very violent things floating around on free porn sites. From about 2010 or 2011, we were seeing children of 14 or 15 who had very strange ideas about relationships — anal sex and aggression. It’s brought about a change we weren’t quite ready for,” she said.

“No one thought if you give a child an iPhone they’re going to start taking pictures of their anatomy and sending it to people. We were playing catch-up.

It’s only recently it’s become something that’s really being looked at and researched.”

Cassidy Trevan, 15, took her own life in 2015 after reporting that she had been gang-raped by boys at her school in Victoria. In 2014, a mother told the ABC she had withdrawn her six-year-old son from an exclusive New South Wales primary school after her son was sexually abused by a classmate and told her boys were being forced to perform oral sex on other boys in the school toilets.

She said the headmaster dismissed her concerns. A similar situation emerged in Adelaide that same year.

Often, the children involved have themselves suffered abuse, or another kind of trauma, such as family violence or the loss of a significant relationship through separation or death. Dr Tucci said the behaviour typically progressed from touching another child’s genitalia to oral sex, intercourse, anal sex and penetration with objects. It is often accompanied by threats and intimidation.

“This behaviour doesn’t come out of the blue,” said Dr Tucci. “There’s generally some stress in their life, sometimes direct sexual abuse kids have experienced from a family members or someone close to them. They seek ways of reducing the stress, sometimes by looking for intimacy.

“Their needs for love and care aren’t met, so they don’t know how to grow up in a way that they meet the need for love and care of others.

“They’re disempowered. They look for dynamics where they can feel more powerful.”

These often come from porn, he said, which offers “insidious messages about overcoming resistance.”

While these children usually don’t initially understand the impact of their aggression, they eventually learn there is some “reward”, added Dr Tucci, and their behaviour worsens.

“We see kids of 16 or 17 who are engaged in very abusive behaviour — violence, threats, coercion, intimidation,” he said. “They’re very defensive, they deny it, they’re ashamed, they don’t want to talk about it. It isolates them from their family.

“There’s a lot you have to work on with kids that have to change, but you can change them, especially if you tackle it early.

“They need intervention, treatment and changes in family behaviour.”

That’s often not happening, because shame and fear means abuse is so underreported, and children used to family violence have often been coerced into patterns of secrecy.

This week, Vice reported on Melbourne’s Gatehouse Centre, which sees around 300 children a year who have abused other children. Gatehouse social worker Michael Keane told the publication these children were typically silent, restless or embarrassed. “One of the hardest things is to get young people to acknowledge what they’ve done, and that it’s wrong,” he said.

Dr Gemma McKibbin from the University of Melbourne said the silence was worsened by grooming. “It takes an average of 25 years for someone to disclose child sexual abuse,” she told Vice. She said some perpetrators were recreating scenes they had watched, or trying to educate themselves about sex.

Up to 95 per cent of perpetrators are male, and two-thirds of victims female.

When the perpetrators were girls, they had often suffered a “cocktail” of abuse and disadvantage, Dr McKibbin added.

Victoria sets the standard in Australia with around 14 centres for victims, who can be referred or self-referred, and the wait is still around eight weeks. In other states and territories, which do not have such a system, it can be months before children get help. That’s a long time if they are in danger in their own home.

Young perpetrators are therefore frequently removed from their homes for the protection of a young sibling. “Often they’re defined by the behaviour in the mind of the community, sometimes in the media, they’re portrayed as sex fiends at just 10 or 11,” said Dr Tucci. “They’re young kids, some can’t even tie their shoelaces.

“While they are responsible for what they’ve done, they’re really not responsible for triggers that caused that behaviour in the first place — it’s the adults who have abused them, exposed them to family violence and supported the porn industry.”


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/childonchild-sexual-abuse-is-soaring-and-these-are-disturbing-the-reasons-why/news-story/bd579062580e8db9b77df5f2393e6293


There is no doubt our society is paying the price for the general lowering of standards brought about by the progressive movement over our lifetime.

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They only need to turn on the TV or go to the movies, or look around them to see that that sort of thing is "ok". Sex seems to be looked on as a commodity or a road to "coolness" in our new self obsessed culture. I call it the "er" "est" headset. Bigger, better ,cooler etc.
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There is no doubt our society is paying the price for the general lowering of standards brought about by the progressive movement over our lifetime.

Sigh.

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You may not like it, but I'm afraid a sigh doesn't change anything Bill. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

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Cassidy Trevan, 15, took her own life in 2015 after reporting that she had been gang-raped by boys at her school in Victoria. In 2014, a mother told the ABC she had withdrawn her six-year-old son from an exclusive New South Wales primary school after her son was sexually abused by a classmate and told her boys were being forced to perform oral sex on other boys in the school toilets.


She said the headmaster dismissed her concerns. A similar situation emerged in Adelaide that same year.



What sickening stories! http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif Most likely why NSW ditched the so called 'safe school' BS - the whole system needs shaking up.

Roz Ward

At the 2015 Marxism Conference in Melbourne she made the following statements:

“LGBTI oppression and heteronormativity are woven into the fabric of capitalism…there’s no denying that some areas of life have improved for LGBTI people and programs like Safe Schools Coalition are making some difference, but we’re still an extremely long way from liberation…only Marxism provides both the theory and the practice of genuine human liberation.”
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“To smooth the operation of capitalism the ruling class has benefited, and continues to benefit, from oppressing our bodies, relationships, sexuality and gender identities alongside sexism, homophobia and transphobia; both serve to break the spirits of ordinary people, to consume our thoughts, to make us accept the status quo and for us to keep living or aspiring to live, or feel like we should live, in small social units and families where we must reproduce and take responsibility for those people in those units.”
At the 2013 Marxism Conference she said:

“I not only teach people how to be gay, I teach them how to be gay and communist, so invite me to your school if you will.”


https://unsafeschools.org/the-australian-safe-schools-program-la-trobe-university/

Former prime minister Tony Abbott has commended the NSW Government's decision to ditch the controversial Safe Schools program, designed to educate students about sexual and gender diversity.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-16/safe-schools-program-ditched-in-nsw/8446680

Edit: (forgot to add the link..

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1600219.Alfie_s_Home

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You may not like it, but I'm afraid a sigh doesn't change anything Bill http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Maybe you should do a little more research on the subject instead of just blaming 'progressives' for everything that you feel obliged to get outraged about scepo. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

No offence, but you could start with this video to find out what kids think about boyfriends relationships etc. It's interesting. Bear in mind that they are about 10/11 years old and know that their conversation is being filmed. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif Who knows where the conversation would have gone had they known they were not being filmed

.Dinner at 11
Dinner at 11 is a unique documentary specially constructed to ask kids what they really think about life and what it means to be a child today. Watch what happens when a group of kids come together for a dinner party.

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/dinner-at-11/ZW0149A001S00

Enjoy. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

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I will confess I am not real keen to spend 46 minutes listening a bunch of 11 year olds.

I suspect that is why you chose to post this. However I will see how I go. It may take a few sittings. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Then at some stage I will comment. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/rolleyes.gif

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Firstly I fail to see any connection between 'Dinner @ 11' and the topic 'Child-on-child sexual abuse is soaring' Bill. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif Do you think that it is dandy to have young children performing sex acts on other children Bill?? If you do then this site has an issue...

As it is your 'job' to paddle steamers our way http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif I watched part of the doc, due to a major lack of time Bill nothing else.

One boy said something like "if he had a dad he might have played football" this reminded me of another sick book pushed on children by the so called 'safe schools' BS! http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif

This would have to be one of the sickest children's books out there - we have some very very sick people playing with children's minds, how can anyone call this 'progressive' in a positive way. The more I see of this 'progressive PC world" the less I want anything to do with it!


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Alfie lives in a seemingly happy home with his parents, brother, and sister, but his father is always working and yells a lot. Uncle Pete comes to stay with them and gives Alfie attention, including unwanted sexual attention, calling it their ``special secret.'' As Alfie grows into a teen, he is teased about being gay. Finally, he goes to a counselor who tells him he isn't gay and that he just missed his father's love and was taught wrong things by his uncle. The same man talks to Alfie's parents, they stop fighting, and Dad begins to spend time with his son playing ball and camping. Uncle Pete is also confronted, but is forgiven when he cries. Now Alfie is ready to date Nancy, whom he marries, and they have a boy and a girl whom they love a lot.


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Edit: forgot to add the link.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1600219.Alfie_s_Home

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Hi Bear

Your post:
Firstly I fail to see any connection between 'Dinner @ 11' and the topic .Child-on-child sexual abuse is soaring' Bill. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif
Do you think that it is dandy to have young children performing sex acts on other children Bill?? If you do then this site has an issue...

As it is your 'job' to paddle steamers our way http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif I watched part of the doc, due to a major lack of time Bill nothing else.

One boy said something like "if he had a dad he might have played football"


There was no direct connection to the Topic Child-on-child sexual abuse is soaring' - that's not why I posted 'Dinner @ 11' .

I posted it for scepo so that he could be a 'fly on the wall' to listen to how young children talk and think. Most, but not all were 11 going on 18 http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif .Lots of flawed logic and immature ideas but they were trying to give their views on relationships, boyfriends and girlfriends etc.

The point is that, even at 11, children are curious about life and where they envisage a future, and as hormones start to kick in in about a years time, we should be prepared for the fact that their sexuality will take front and centre stage - not just prepared for it - we should expect it.

The problem fror law enforcement agencies is that they define child sex abuse as occurring between an adult and a child, and they are not prepared to have to apply those same laws to 'consenting' children.

Recently, in SA I think, a 12 year old boy was charged with transmitting child pornography from his phone to his 'girlfriend'. Apart from the penalties for his crime, he was about to be placed on the sex offenders registry. From memory, it was being appealed and the prosecutor suggested that the law was inadequate in this case.

When we were kids.....ah memories http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif our access to girlfriends/boyfriends was limited by opportunity and the threat that we would go to hell and the girls would get pregnant.

Fast forward to today. Children use Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram to make contacts with potential boyfriends/girlfriends.........and their parents probably have no idea what is going on. The more adventurous little buggers may even send 'dick pics' to the object of their desires. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif

What I am trying to say is that kids are going to do what kids have always done. The difference between when we were young and now is that they have more opportunity and they know more.

The OP Child-on-child sexual abuse is soaring' raises some serious concerns but, IMO, to equate the actions of adult paedophiles with child on child sexual contact needs to be explored further.

....and to put your mind at rest, children are more likely to build sexual fantasies from watching Neighbours or Home and Away than a properly overseen Safe Schools Program. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

It certainly has nothing to do with the 'progressives'.



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This story indicates how prevalent child-on-child sexual abuse might be. I won't even attempt to explain "why" as there are so many factors involved.

Perth teen who raped neighbour, 9, in ‘violent’, ‘premeditated’ attack avoids jail

EXCLUSIVE, Grant Taylor
Thursday, 12 October 2017 4:30AM

A 14-year-old boy convicted of raping his nine-year-old neighbour and threatening to kill him if he reported the abuse has avoided detention, despite showing no remorse for his “abhorrent” crimes.

The boy, who was 13 when the two attacks occurred in Perth’s northern suburbs, was sentenced in the Children’s Court yesterday to a 12-month suspended term of imprisonment and ordered to do 60 hours of community service.

Prosecutors told the court that the boy “groomed” his younger victim over several months by befriending him and winning the trust of his parents who let them play together alone almost every day.

The first attack was described as “violent” and “premeditated”.

The victim was later warned that if he told anyone what had happened he would be hurt or killed.

On the second occasion, the victim was tricked into going into bush near his home where he was again raped and threatened.

The offender, who cannot be named for legal reasons, denied carrying out the attacks but was found guilty in a trial last month of two charges of sexual penetration of a child under 13 and one count of indecent dealings.

Prosecutors yesterday called for an immediate term of imprisonment, saying the victim had been “violated in the most abhorrent way” and would be scarred by the abuse for the rest of his life.

Magistrate Stephen Vose agreed that detention was appropriate, but he suspended the sentence because of the offender’s age, troubled home life and previously clean record.

“What it means is that this sentence hangs over your head for the next 12 months,” Mr Vose warned the boy.

The case is one of several this year involving boys convicted of sexually abusing other boys.

The other cases sparked controversy after parents demanded to know why the abusers were allowed to keep attending their school.

No mention was made in court yesterday of the schooling arrangements for the boy in the latest case, but his lawyer indicated he planned to continue with his education.

As a convicted child rapist, he will go on WA’s sex offender register and will be monitored by police for the next 71/2 years.

The court also imposed a lifetime restraining order on him to prevent him from making contact with his victim or going within 100m of him.



https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/perth-teen-who-raped-neighbour-9-in-violent-premeditated-attack-avoids-jail-ng-b88625791z

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