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 Is Di Natale a Hypocrite?
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 Posted: Feb 7 2018, 03:54 PM
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Richard Luiji Di Natale has something he doesn’t like to broadcast.

It Is What It Is.·Wednesday, January 31, 2018

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Richard Luiji Di Natale . The Greens party leader who loves to tell us Aussies that we live on stolen land and our nation isn’t legitimate and that we should give it all back to the aboriginals.

Richard Luiji Di Natale. The son of Italian immigrants. That right. His parents fought against us during the war. No one in his family fought or died for the country he is critical of while he is taking advantage of it.

Richard Luiji Di Natale. The Greens party leader who despises Australians. In particular white Australians and in particular wealthy and middle class Australians and would happily rid the average Aussie family of their privately owned 474 to 665 square meters of “stolen land” owns a 50 acres of “stolen land” in Victoria's Otway Ranges.

Not only does he own it. He failed to declare that he owned it when he entered politics. And he is requires by law to declare it. He claimed that he’d forgotten that he’d purchased his 2.3 million dollar property. Like putting spare change in a draw I suppose. One forgets it’s there.

But wait there’s more!!

This “champion of human rights” and especially the rights of foreigners in Australia. Had two au pairs on his property. An au pair is a young foreign person, typically a woman, who helps with housework or childcare in exchange for food, a room, and some pocket money.

And Greens party leader. Richard0 Luiji Di Natale. The champion of humanity, in his own mind, paid them a massive $3.75 an hour to help with his family . Mind you on top of Richard0 Luiji Di Natale’s $283,632 plus bonuses and quirks per year from the tax payer. He would also claim that massive $3.75 per hour for his nannies back on tax as he’s a mobile politician.

His ad for the au pair read

“ family of four is looking for an extra pair of hands around the place to entertain the lads [the couple have two boys] and help with cooking and general domestic duties".
"Will take couples but weekly wage remains the same."

That’s $150 a week for two people. Or $1.88 an hour each.

Even if we disregard his hypocrisy in being critical of our nation and the land we live on. He’s even failing at being a communist. Which is what the Greens are.

Richard Luiji Di Natale is a hypocrite, a capitalist and he takes advantage of those on working visa’s as well as the Australian tax payer.


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The above piece arrived by email so I checked it out via Google. The original source (see above link) contained numerous grammatical and spelling errors, some of which I have corrected. An example was calling Mr Di Natale "Richardo". The piece mentions his parents are Italians, claiming they (his parents) fought against us in the war. This is totally irrelevant to his being a suitable leader of the Greens or not. It was the remainder of the article referring to his land holdings and employment of an au pair that I found interesting and wanted to check how accurate it was. The following article appeared in The Sydney Morning Herald.

Election 2016: Greens leader Richard Di Natale fails to declare home, pays au pairs low wage

January 19 2017

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Richard Di Natale and his wife, Lucy Quarterman, on their farm. Photo: Damien Pleming

Greens leader Richard Di Natale failed to declare his family farm in Victoria's Otway Ranges for 15 months, breaching parliamentary rules and potentially placing him in "serious contempt" of the Senate.

And Senator Di Natale has paid three au pairs to help with his family as little as $150 a week after tax, or $3.75 an hour - based on a standard 40-hour week - as well as room and board worth $300 a week.

He says he made up the difference and paid above minimum wage requirements [based on advice from a payroll services company] and by requiring only 25 hours of work a week.

The Greens leader has made workers' pay and conditions, and a promise to protect penalty rates, a central feature of the 2016 election campaign.

He has attacked Bill Shorten over the penalty rates issue too after the Labor leader vowed to respect the rulings of the independent Fair Work Commission and said he would not - unlike the Greens - legislate to protect penalty rates.

Senator Di Natale and his wife, Lucy Quarterman, jointly own a 20-hectare farm "Twin Gums" and a second investment property in North Melbourne, which is not negatively geared, when he entered the Senate on July 1, 2011.

He declared ownership of the North Melbourne property on his Register of Senators' Interests on July 28, 2011 but omitted ownership of the family farm, which was his primary residence - breaching Senate rules about the disclosure of property owned solely or jointly by a senator.

In October 2012, the GP-turned-MP transferred the jointly owned farm to Ms Quarterman's name, removing the requirement for it to be declared publicly on "Form A" of the Register.

But between July 1, 2011 and October 2012, he was joint owner of Twin Gums, which means that like Labor MP David Feeney, who Fairfax Media revealed on Tuesday failed to disclose a $2.3 million property on the Register, Senator Di Natale could be found to be in "serious contempt" of the Senate under disclosure rules, and censured.

Senator Di Natale's spokesman said "the farm was listed as a business interest from the time Richard was elected" and claimed that by declaring income from the farm, Mr Di Natale had met requirements. However, the senator has clearly breached the rules as stated by the Senate, which require all property solely or jointly owned by a senator to be declared.

The 2012 post on backpackerjobboard.com.au by Ms Quarterman, advertising an au pair job paying $150 a week, plus food and board, is potentially more embarrassing.

The ad stated the family of four is "looking for an extra pair of hands around the place to entertain the lads [the couple have two boys] and help with cooking and general domestic duties".

It adds: "Will take couples but weekly wage remains the same."

The $150 weekly wage was a quarter of the national minimum wage in 2012 of $606.40 per week, or $15.96 per hour.

A couple working for $150 a week would be earning just $1.88 per hour.

A spokesman for Senator Di Natale said the employment conditions of the au pair hired in 2012 were "based on advice received" that a deduction of $300 for food and board was appropriate and that the au pairs worked approximately 25 hours each week

"PAYG tax was also paid, at $37 per week, which brought the gross figure to $187, which was above minimum wage," the spokesman said.

"The au pairs worked during business hours (while Lucy worked) so penalty rates did not apply. Advice was that Superannuation was not payable."

The Fair Work Ombudsman states au pairs are entitled to the national minimum wage but can trade away food and lodging if both parties agree in writing.

The tax office states an au pair employed for more than 30 hours a week must be paid super.

Subsequent au pairs, including "Ben" - featured in a 2015 Good Weekend profile - were "paid above minimum wage based on the same conditions and a bonus was also given at the conclusion of his term. He remains a close friend of the family", the spokesman said.

Senator Di Natale has challenged Labor: "If you are so committed to penalty rates, protect them in law...if you care about penalty rates as the Greens do, then join us and let's protect them in law."

He also attacked Mr Feeney for blaming the "maelstrom of events" for his failure to declare his $2.3 million Northcote property.

"I think he's got some serious answers to give and so far the explanation he's given falls well short . . . I can definitely say that I haven't purchased a $2.3 million property - I reckon I would have remembered that," he said.


http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/election-2016-greens-leader-richard-di-natale-fails-to-declare-home-pays-au-pairs-low-wage-20160519-goywxq.html

The image I posted above the opening article was also from the SMH.

It would appear that the self-proclaimed socialist is indeed a hypocrite.

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Richard Luiji Di Natale. The son of Italian immigrants. That right. His parents fought against us during the war. No one in his family fought or died for the country he is critical of while he is taking advantage of it.

Not possible. His parents came out here on a boat in the late 50's as part of Australia's post war immigration from Europe
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/greens-leadership-change-who-is-the-new-greens-leader-richard-di-natale-20150506-ggv8ws.html

.....along with the 'Ten Pound Poms" (160,000 of whom have still not bothered to take out Australian citizenship http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif despite benefitting from all that Australia has to offer including voting rights in our democracy.)

His parents would have only been children during WW2, and is more than likely that his 'grand parents' were part of the communist resistance fighting on our side - can't confirm the last part.

The Facebook post, that Charles re-posted, was made one week ago and is most likely the subject of defamation action right now.

I'm not a lawyer, and I'm just guessing here, but reposting the original Facebook post would likely attract the same consequences as the original.

The Facebook post is 'racist' in case you didn't know Charles. It vilifies Richard Di Natale and his family on the basis of his Italian Heritage.

And you wonder why I despair over the posts on FDNC. You guys live in a strange little cloistered world where it's OK to demonise those you don't like.

BTW, I have no time for Richard Di Natale's politics.
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Steady on Bill, I dismissed the references to Di Natale's Italian heritage with my initial comments. I wasn't interested in that aspect at all, and agree that it is tantamount to a racist attack. It was the references to his property holdings and his au pair arrangement that interested me and was why I checked the accuracy by refrencing the Sydney Morning Herald article. Had you bothered to check the link you would have noted the following disclaimer: NOTE: The Australian Press Council partly upheld a complaint about this article. Read the full adjudication here.

You go on to state, " And you wonder why I despair over the posts on FDNC. You guys live in a strange little cloistered world where it's OK to demonise those you don't like." yet you fail to realise that others despair over aspects of many of your posts. Your Anglophobic attitude is just one example and, surprise, surprise, it crops up here when there is no relevance whatsoever.

In the past you have resorted to vitriolic and aggressive language that demonises the opinions that conflict with yours.


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The man is a first class act there is no doubt about it. One I would like to meet in a dark ally along with one of his colleges after today's cowardice action on using a privilege that surely should rock the Senate today and yesterday. Not to mention dumb arse either.
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The Facebook post, that Charles re-posted, was made one week ago and is most likely the subject of defamation action right now.

Bill not so, The part about underplaying people working for him, all this was publically printed in the media prior to the election.
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If we don't agree with someone's religion we are called "racist " , now it has been expanded to if we don't like criminals and liarswe are also racists. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

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QUOTE (Michael.W @ Feb 7 2018, 06:53 PM)
The Facebook post, that Charles re-posted, was made one week ago and is most likely the subject of defamation action right now.

Bill not so,  The part about underplaying people working for him, all this was publically printed in the media prior to the election.

Hi Michael

I was referring to the Facebook post that Charles received in an Email. There could be legal consequences for the allegation that Di Natale's Italian heritage inferred that his parents fought for the Italian Fascist, Benito Mussolini and against us..

The issue of the employmwnt of au pairs was addressed by Di Natale and Ms Quarterman and they were subsequently found to have no case to answer. No one, not even Fair Work Australia, has made a case that Di Natale and Ms Quarterman have ever underpaid anyone. To claim otherwise is dishonest and IMO defamatory.

The issue was first raised in 2012

I'm guessing that the SMH article of January 19 2017 . one year earlier http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif , was added to Charles post to give some credence to the defamatory claims made in the Facebook post. It's just a shame that its age and are not relevant to the Facebook post.
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QUOTE (Flin @ Feb 7 2018, 06:55 PM)
If we don't agree with someone's religion we are called "racist " , now it has been expanded to if we don't like criminals and liarswe are also racists. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Please explain Flin. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

Richard Luiji Di Natale. The son of Italian immigrants. That right. His parents fought against us during the war. No one in his family fought or died for the country he is critical of while he is taking advantage of it.

This statement is racist, because it seeks to vilify someone, in this case Richard Di Natale, on the basis of his Italian Heritage. Can't you see that Flin. ?

Making allegations about someone's truthfulness or criminal activities, ("criminals and liars") , however unfounded and untruthful they may be, is not racist. It could however, in a Court of Law, be found to be defamatory, and have consequences.




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Hi Charles
I note that you dismissed the racist aspects of the Facebook post. The question is - Why post it in the first place, when it's bona fides are suss. ? http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

The SMH article was published at least one year prior to the racist Facebook rant, and it consisted of a mish mash of innuendo and sloppy reporting sufficient for it to be referred to the Australian Press Council for adjudication, as you correctly pointed out. I didn't notice this when I first followed your SMH link - so thank you for that.


NOTE: The Australian Press Council partly upheld a complaint about this article. Read the full adjudication here.


Done Charles and here are its conclusions http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif

In the circumstances, the Council concludes that the publication failed to take reasonable steps to ensure the article was accurate and not misleading, and was fair and balanced. Accordingly, General Principles 1 and 3 were breached in these respects.


Your Anglophobic attitude is just one example and, surprise, surprise, it crops up here when there is no relevance whatsoever.

In the past you have resorted to vitriolic and aggressive language that demonises the opinions that conflict with yours.


Hmmmm - I would have thought that it might be relevant when discussing the migrant background of Richard Di Natale's family, it was relevant to point out that Australia had accepted migrants from a wide ranging European background including some who accept the benefits of living in Australia without the commitment to take out Australian citizenship. Only one group of migrants lack that commitment. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

Granted Charles, that at times I have "resorted to vitriolic and aggressive language" during discussions here, but I've turned over a new leaf. Gone are the accusations of racism, Islamaphobia, homophobia, and any other 'phobias' that others may care to add. I am trying to replace that with the invitation for posters to be more responsible for the comments that they make, and in so doing, have a conversation.

Some will, some won't because they are quite happy to just log on, have a little rant and move on.

Same thing every single day Charles. We can do much better than that, and we are all getting too old for 'grumpy old men bullshit'. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

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