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Bill
 Posted: Feb 8 2018, 12:50 AM
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Should descendants of this man be granted a resident visa to Australia ?

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 Posted: Feb 8 2018, 06:25 AM
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What a strange question to ask Bill. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/rolleyes.gif

Another case of playing devils advocate???? http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

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QUOTE (Bill @ Feb 8 2018, 12:50 AM)
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Should descendants of this man be granted a resident visa to Australia ?


Isn't he living in Toowoomba already? http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/wink.gif

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Phillip J.
 Posted: Feb 8 2018, 07:10 AM
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I don't understand the question. Is this someone that we should know? http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

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Cheddar Man: First modern Britons had 'dark to black' skin, DNA research reveals




"Cheddar Man", Britain's oldest, nearly complete human skeleton, had dark skin, blue eyes and dark curly hair when he lived in what is now southwest England 10,000 years ago, scientists who read his DNA have discovered.

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Using well-preserved DNA, scientists were able to sequence Cheddar Man's genome for the first time

Researchers at UCL said the man had dark skin, high cheekbones, blue eyes and coarse black hair

The findings suggest that the lighter skin pigmentation now seen as typical of Britons is far more recent than previously thought


The finding suggests that the lighter skin pigmentation now seen as typical of northern Europeans is far more recent than previously thought, according to researchers from University College London (UCL) who took part in the project.

Cheddar Man's skin colour was described as "dark to black" by the scientific team which also included researchers from London's Natural History Museum, where the skeleton is on display in the Human Evolution gallery.

"To go beyond what the bones tell us and get a scientifically based picture of what he actually looked like is a remarkable, and from the results quite surprising achievement," said Chris Stringer, the museum's research leader in Human Origins.


Unearthed in 1903 in a cave at Cheddar Gorge, in the county of Somerset, the Mesolithic-era man was a hunter-gatherer whose ancestors migrated into Europe at the end of the last Ice Age.

Three hundred generations later, around 10 per cent of indigenous British ancestry can be linked to Cheddar Man's people, scientists say.

As part of a project commissioned by Britain's Channel 4 television station for a documentary, experts from the Natural History Museum's ancient DNA lab drilled a tiny hole into the skull in order to extract genetic information.

The DNA was unusually well-preserved, enabling the scientists to sequence Cheddar Man's genome for the first time and to analyse it to establish aspects of his appearance.


Then, a pair of Dutch artists who are experts in palaeontological model making, Alfons and Adrie Kennis, used a high-tech scanner to make a three-dimensional model of Cheddar Man's head.

The model, which UCL and the Natural History Museum said rendered Cheddar Man's face with unprecedented accuracy, shows a man with dark skin, high cheekbones, blue eyes and coarse black hair.

The model will be shown on the Channel 4 documentary, which is scheduled to be aired on February 18.

Selina Brace, one of the Natural History Museum's ancient DNA experts who took part in sequencing Cheddar Man's genome, was quoted as saying the model was "really, really cool".


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-08/cheddar-man-first-britons-had-dark-to-black-skin-dna-research/9406636


The photo relates to this Cheddar Man story PJ.

I'm not sure if it has ever been "proven" but for decades now there have been theories that we evolved from the apes. I am sure that all of us have heard this theory.

Bills question has as much relevance as posting a picture of an ape and asking, Should descendants of this man be granted a resident visa to Australia ?

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 Posted: Feb 8 2018, 11:17 AM
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He was Black Irish or Welsh?

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Bill likes be a friendly stirrer sometimes, and he admits it! It's the same as people justifying, or defending Muslims (or as they were called then....Moslems!) and some people usually fall back on the old chestnut : "But what about the Crusades?" Maybe Bill's just being....Krafty! http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/rolleyes.gif

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Nice family photo though, eh? http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

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 Posted: Feb 9 2018, 01:56 PM
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I originally posted the picture as a bit of a giggle, assuming that you would have all seen the news item on the ABC....or somewhere. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif

If you google 'Cheddar Man' there are lots of technical pieces on his origins and the reasons why he doesn't exst in that form in modern England.

Apparently, most indigenous populations were invaded by just about anyone who could build a boat and Cheddar Man was no exception.

The ABC did an interview with a Brit who has a direct DNA connection on the female side to Cheddar Man and the only thing he appeared to have inherited was the blue eyes.


I find genetics fascinating and modern DNA science has revealed that there were at least five distinct species of 'humans' who roamed the planet in the past.

Our species, homo sapiens, is the only one that has survived, but traces of the others are evident in small amounts in the DNA of everyone of our ancestors who walked out of Africa.


and.....scepo, we didn't descend from apes. They are cousins. We have a common ancestor. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

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I don't think that scepo himself inferred that we are descended from apes. He said it was an unproven theory that a lot of people think is right. My theory was always "if we are descended from apes, why are there still apes around?" A common ancestor that split into the two groups (or more) would certainly be the more obvious answer! 🙈

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