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 Will Labor Take Shorten to the Election?
Charles
 Posted: Jul 7 2018, 04:57 PM
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I agree that we should look at comparisons if we are to comment on policies - though I would point out again that there is a difference between policies put in place by a Government and promises made by an Opposition.

My comments were not meant as a comparison but in response to your post that followed your opening comment, "…...while the conservative side of politics seem to lurch from one diabolical brain fart to another on a daily basis. I give you:"

With regard to your response to my comment on US Consumer confidence under Donald Trump, I refer you to this statement posted earlier this year in Marketwatch.com:

The numbers: Consumer confidence surged in February, the first month Americans started to benefit from the Trump tax cuts, to the highest level since November 2000. Evidently the recent selloff in U.S. stock markets did little to dampen their optimism.


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 Posted: Jul 7 2018, 07:49 PM
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Was it howard that said bless they are core promises you do not have to keep them god i despise them
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 Posted: Jul 9 2018, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE (Bill @ Jul 6 2018, 03:37 PM)
I think it all went down hill after we missed out on 'Big Kim' and got the little egotist KRuddy Flin.



I recall you defending Krudd, until he got knifed by Juliar. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

But I must admit I am surprised that you didn't say it was all downhill since the Keating era (excluding Juliar's era of course). http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

You slipped up there Bill. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/rolleyes.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/wink.gif

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 Posted: Jul 9 2018, 04:39 PM
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Liked Keating scepo - Never a fan of Hawke, and I was a union rep at the time he was in power. I had a lot of time for Hayden, (the drovers dog). He gave us Medibank - and then Medicare. Without Hayden, no Medicare.

KRudd gave us nothing except the apology - he was good at apologies http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif - Gillard gave us the Royal Commission, the NDIS, Gonski - and lots of things. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

We'll finally get the 'Full Gonski' when Labor is returned to the government benches in Canberra.

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 Posted: Jul 9 2018, 06:08 PM
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Well Bill I can recall you defending Rudd right up until your "class act" Juliar back stabbed him. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif Don't forget he gave us pink batts, unwanted school equipment and buildings, opened the floodgates for people smugglers etc. etc.


Well she never gave us the full Gonski and it was never close to being fully funded under her. And it is a total waste of taxpayer money. Throwing truckloads of money at a problem rarely fixes it, but of course that is the progressive way. And yes I concede that this useless mob have thrown money at it and not fixed it either.

Neither was NDIS fully funded (though I did and still do support NDIS). But I can't see any government being able to afford to fully fund it anytime soon, if ever.

Despite recent competition, I still rate Gillards term as the worst federal government in this nations history. By quite a long way!!!!! Just a pathetic, despicable person all round http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_IMHO.png

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 Posted: Jul 9 2018, 06:49 PM
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"We'll finally get the 'Full Gonski' when Labor is returned to the government benches in Canberra."

Heaven forbid Bill. Even David Gonski himself wished to be distanced from Julia Gillard's corrupted version. Hers was all about grabbing central control, blackmailing states that resisted and throwing money at a perceived problem when there were already more than adequate programmes in place (in some states).

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"We'll finally get the 'Full Gonski' when Labor is returned to the government benches in Canberra"

Sounds like the left's version of the 'full Monty' - but I bet that it will cost taxpayers a fortune and have more 'floors' (flaws) than a highrise, costed by morons, funded by the poor battlers as always!

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QUOTE (Charles @ Jul 9 2018, 06:49 PM)
"We'll finally get the 'Full Gonski' when Labor is returned to the government benches in Canberra."

Heaven forbid Bill. Even David Gonski himself wished to be distanced from Julia Gillard's corrupted version. Hers was all about grabbing central control, blackmailing states that resisted and throwing money at a perceived problem when there were already more than adequate programmes in place (in some states).

Hi Charles

The biggest problem, as you have explained many times before, in the implementation of Julia Gillard's Gonski reforms was in having to negotiate 11 (?) different agreements with the States, Independent Schools and the Catholic Education sector.

Now, courtesy of the Minister, Simon Birmingham, and the LNP, there is only one funding model that all stakeholders come under. Curly and Plibbers would have been high fiving in the hallway and cracking open the champagne at that announcement.

When Labor is returned to office, all that is required is to increase4 the funding in the areas that is required to implement Gonski as intended. It doesn't even require legislation, just increased funding.

And...…...Curly has already announced a fully funded education policy.

It took two terms to deliver Medicare - it will take two terms to deliver Gonski 3.0 and NDIS 3.0 and the NBN 3.0.

Hang on to your hats. It's going to be an exciting ride. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

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Dream on Bill. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif

And by the way, the real reason your class act Juliar was in such a rush to introduce GONSKI and NDIS was because she knew she had no hope of winning the 2013 election, and was determined to load the incoming Abbott government with an even bigger mountain of debt than her and Rudd had already accumulated. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Bloody class act alright mate.
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