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 ‘Don’t call them gangs’ | Police.
Bear
 Posted: Jan 2 2018, 04:31 PM
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African gang crime 'out of control' in Melbourne: Greg Hunt.

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Cars were damaged when an Airbnb property was trashed in Werribee last month.

By Brad Ryan

Updated about 10 hours ago


The comments from Mr Hunt and Mr Turnbull follow several recent headline-grabbing crimes blamed on groups of young African men, including the trashing of an Airbnb property in Werribee and the repeated destruction of a community centre in Tarneit.

In both cases, walls were scrawled with the letters "MTS", which are understood to stand for a western suburbs-based group, "Menace to Society".

A spate of jewellery store robberies in 2016 and 2017, many carried out by groups of men described as being of African appearance, also prompted debate about gang crime.

South Sudanese Australian Nelly Yoa, who mentors troubled young members of the community in Melbourne, said the Prime Minister's criticism of the Victorian Government was valid.

"The State Government has watched this unfold over the past two years," said Mr Yoa, who came to Australia in 2003 as a refugee.

"Nothing has been done."

He said more must be done to address violence in African communities.

"As a Melburnian, I do believe enough is enough. Action needs to be taken instead of just talking about it all the time."


Police dispute 'gang' problem


Migrants from Sudan are overrepresented in crime data for offences such as serious assault and aggravated burglary — but they are responsible for far fewer incidents overall than Australian-born offenders.

The Victorian Crime Statistics Agency's data for the year to June 2017 shows Sudanese-born offenders were allegedly involved in 98 aggravated burglaries in the state, compared to 540 Australian-born offenders.

For the same period, 45 serious assaults were allegedly committed by Sudanese-born offenders, compared to 1,462 Australian-born offenders.

People born in Sudan make up about 0.1 per cent of Victoria's population, Census data shows.

Last week, Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Andrew Crisp said Melbourne did not have a gang problem, and urged the media not to label groups of young thugs as "gangs".

"I don't accept for one minute that we do have gangs," Deputy Commissioner Crisp said at the time.

"I urge you [the media] not to play up to the ego of these young people by calling them a gang, because they're not a gang."

When asked about the Government's comments on Monday, Deputy Commissioner Crisp maintained Victoria Police was "well and truly on top of" youth crime.

"The data shows … we're locking up more and more people and, at the same time, we're focused on some of the underlying social issues," Deputy Commissioner Crisp said.

He said there had been a shift in behaviour in the western suburbs around Tarneit following police operations targeting youth crime.

"I'm very confident where we're going and how we're tackling youth crime in this state."

Victorian Government frontbencher Philip Dalidakis said the Government would take its instructions and advice from Victoria Police, not the Prime Minister.

"We certainly will not be taking suggestions or advice from a bloke who can't even put on a life vest when he's on a boat in Sydney Harbour," Mr Dalidakis said.

"So if Malcolm Turnbull wants to play games instead of working in a collaborative effort, then he can do so and talk to himself."

Data released in December by the state's Crime Statistics Agency shows Victoria's overall crime rate dropped by 6.2 per cent in the year to September 30, largely because of falls in theft from cars and aggravated burglaries.

But sexual assaults and robberies continued to rise.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-01/african-gang-crime-out-of-control-in-melbourne-minister-says/9296476

"I don't accept for one minute that we do have gangs," Deputy Commissioner Crisp said at the time.

How politically correct, nothing to see here let us move on....we don't want to be accused of being that terrible 'R' word do we http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/rolleyes.gif Do the members here feel that it would be in our best interests to say nothing, and just learn to live with the new society we have created? Some call it diversity! http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/huh.gif


Menace To Society

Police and the public have a dangerous new gang to worry about – Menace To Society.

Link to news video - 9:04

https://www.9now.com.au/a-current-affair/2017/clip-cjbvyehci006y0hnymalv22qv

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 Posted: Jan 2 2018, 05:18 PM
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When you boil it all down, the blame HAS to be laid squarely at the governments, past and present, because they are ones that ultimately allowed them in, in the first instance! They couldn't be here without the permission and approval from the government. The buck actually does stop with them!

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African gangs in Melbourne are a problem, police admit, as Victorian Government defends strategy

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-02/street-gangs-are-a-problem-in-melbourne-police-admit/9297984

Same story as above but updated with Victorian Crime Statistics. Scroll down..

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Not gangs. Just mildly troubled teenagers and adults. Just high kinks. http://s7.postimg.org/j7qtvsrc7/sarcasm.gif

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QUOTE (lee @ Jan 2 2018, 05:40 PM)
Not gangs. Just mildly troubled teenagers and adults. Just high kinks. http://s7.postimg.org/j7qtvsrc7/sarcasm.gif


The Vic. Police would do well to work with their religious mentors to get them off the streets and involved in the community.
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Kevin Andrews warned us ALL about 9 years ago Phillip. We have been told that it will not happen here by the social justice warriors, those on the right are racists - will the same social justice warriors help 'fix' the situation we now find ourselves in? --- not likely, that type always start the fight then run off and hide. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/wink.gif

“Some groups don’t seem to be settling and adjusting into the Australian way of life as quickly as we would hope,”

THE truth about Sudanese refugees is now so obvious that even the ABC admitted to the danger this week.

"Growing youth crime rates, with carjackings and home invasions doubling in the last year, … have revealed a growing trend of out-of-control South Sudanese youth,” its 7.30 program conceded.

So where are the sorries to Kevin Andrews, who warned nine years ago this would happen?

Where are the apologies from the journalists, Labor politicians and senior police who slimed him as a racist?

It was in 2007 that Andrews, immigration minister in the Howard government, said he was cutting back on refugees from Sudan and Somalia.

“Some groups don’t seem to be settling and adjusting into the Australian way of life as quickly as we would hope,” he said.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/andrews-was-right-about-sudanese-crime-where-are-the-apologies/news-story/72c7d15639cb7a19dfe13fcbf409e267

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African gangs in Melbourne are a problem, police admit, as Victorian Government defends strategy

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9mm double tap Victoria voted the incompetents in They own all of it They are accountable user posted image i hope they are dragged out of Parliament they are still importing them why? https://www.facebook.com/YourPageIsFunny/videos/10155473271593386/ this says it all

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Salty buckshot would sort em Charks.

Deport those we can!

Lib MP Jason Wood has the correct approach.


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i feel critical mass will be reached soon
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Funny - Toowoomba has the largest population of Sudanese migrants outside of Melbourne, and we don't have that problem.

I wonder why that is ?

Could it be that the young Sudanese in Toowoomba are involved in the community, attend school and university, are involved in the many spiorting teams in the city, attend church on a regular basis, and have jobs and a future.

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